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Nice idea John, I'm not sure we have a "Winton Guy" on the forum but maybe this will attract one?
I think by 1922 they must have been almost done?
I think you are right about year. They list up to 1924..... and as other makes that were huge, they were starting to get smaller.
as for a Winton guy on the forum, there is one, I’ll reach out and see if he has interest in “pontificating”
So I've been doing a little more research into Winton. A fascinating story and it impresses me how successful they were in those early years of the start of automobile production. A Cleveland Ohio Manufacturer, Winton, like others, segued from bicycle production into cars. Winton claimed to have produced over 100 vehicles in 1899 making it the highest production auto manufacturing company in the US. In addition to James Packard, the Vanderbilt family were early owners as well, buying two in 1901. In 1902 Winton produced the Winton Bullet (of which there were eventually three made) and set an unofficial land speed record in the US of 70 mph in Cleveland that year.
Winton Bullet #1 at Smithsonian Museum
There is an 1899 and a 1901 Winton in the Larz Anderson Auto Museum collection, in Brookline, Ma.
Hope this helps.
Tom
Jan 29, 2024So I've been doing a little more research into Winton. A fascinating story and it impresses me how successful they were in those early years of the start of automobile production. A Cleveland Ohio Manufacturer, Winton, like others, segued from bicycle production into cars. Winton claimed to have produced over 100 vehicles in 1899 making it the highest production auto manufacturing company in the US. In addition to James Packard, the Vanderbilt family were early owners as well, buying two in 1901. In 1902 Winton produced the Winton Bullet (of which there were eventually three made) and set an unofficial land speed record in the US of 70 mph in Cleveland that year.
Winton Bullet #1 at Smithsonian Museum
That is so beautiful. It would be nice it if could be displayed. Hey, Steve M, we need this for the AACA Headquarters lobby, stat!!
In regard to Winton, I have this set of Minnesota license plates that were registered to a 1922 Winton. The 1927 plate actually has hand-written on it "Winton," along with the Doctor's name. I also have some of the original envelopes with name and address, as several of them were never used/installed (especially during the war years). I do not know if the later plates were registered to the Winton. I don't know if it was common to transfer tags from one car to another during that period. Possible, though, especially since the owner may have been proud of the low number. Perhaps as a dig on Winton, for helping Packard get started in the industry (Mr. Packard, if you think you can build a better car, then go ahead!), I put one on our 1930 Packard Speedster.
Jan 29, 2024In regard to Winton, I have this set of Minnesota license plates that were registered to a 1922 Winton. The 1927 plate actually has hand-written on it "Winton," along with the Doctor's name. I also have some of the original envelopes with name and address, as several of them were never used/installed (especially during the war years). I do not know if the later plates were registered to the Winton. I don't know if it was common to transfer tags from one car to another during that period. Possible, though, especially since the owner may have been proud of the low number.
That is very cool West. I love a good license plate display. Hopefully some more information will come out about these great cars. As for Steve getting a Bullet for the AACA building, they made three. Not sure where they all ended up.
any idea if the Winton that those plates were registered to, the doctors car, is still around?
Jan 29, 2024In regard to Winton, I have this set of Minnesota license plates that were registered to a 1922 Winton. The 1927 plate actually has hand-written on it "Winton," along with the Doctor's name. I also have some of the original envelopes with name and address, as several of them were never used/installed (especially during the war years). I do not know if the later plates were registered to the Winton. I don't know if it was common to transfer tags from one car to another during that period. Possible, though, especially since the owner may have been proud of the low number. Perhaps as a dig on Winton, for helping Packard get started in the industry (Mr. Packard, if you think you can build a better car, then go ahead!), I put one on our 1930 Packard Speedster.
Nice subtle irony with the Winton plate on your Speedster. I suppose the Packard family could circle back to Alexander Winton (were he still living in 1930), and say “let us present exhibit A to your challenge some 30 years ago”
that Speedster is “Special”. Share pics often with us!
I always wanted a pre 1919 Winton, they are great cars, but can pose some challenges with castings on certain models. Underrated cars that should be looked at for any collector.
Here is a nice 1916 Winton in the Harvey G. Harper collection in Eureka, CA. They had it out last year for the Rhododendron parade, so I know it runs. Not sure I like the color scheme, but a beautiful car just the same.
Feb 2, 2024Here is a nice 1916 Winton in the Harvey G. Harper collection in Eureka, CA. They had it out last year for the Rhododendron parade, so I know it runs. Not sure I like the color scheme, but a beautiful car just the same.
Interesting car. It looks like in 1916 they offered a 138 in WB with a 524 cubic inch 6 and a 128 in WB with a 348 cubic inch 6.
price ranges were 3,500-4,600 for the larger models and 2,200-3,500 for the smaller offerings.
they seem to be a well engineered big platform. I’d be curious to see what the annual output/production of cars Winton was building in those years.
Feb 3, 20242,458 in 1916
Five times more than I would have guessed.......
Feb 3, 2024Five times more than I would have guessed.......
Me too. That would be almost consistently 10 cars a day out the chute to be sold in a 5 day work week All year long with virtually no slowdown or stoppage. I'm interested in how that yearly production number compared to Pierce Arrow, Locomobile, McFarlan, Cunningham, Other US Makes with large WB platforms and large Displacement engines in those years.
Where are all those Wintons.....? I wonder about their survival rate compared to the peers they had in 1916?
Feb 5, 2024On the Dennis the Menace tv show there was a Winton in the episode Horseless Carriage Club.
Great find. The car figures prominently in the show, lots of footage of it. A great looking ride. makes me want one.
Truthfully, I'd forgotten about Dennis the Menace. You have to wonder how this episode came into existence (writer or director was a fan???), and I wonder if the car is still with us. It looks nice and you'd hope it has been kept in a collection somewhere.
I believe the 1912 Winton in the "Dennis the Menace" was owned by a HCCA member back then. He sold the car in the 1970s or early 1980s to Phil Reed of Los Angeles (Whittier?). Reed drove the car until he was around 90-100 years old and he died around 2018. Reed was very important and involved in the HCCA. He had been national HCCA president as well.