1918 HAL Twelve

AJ, I have never heard of it.  Now that you have “shaken the bushes”, let’s see what comes to light. Big multi-cylinder cars were a small slice of what was manufactured.   I am waiting for Walt and others to chime in. 
 

There is one out west. We were discussing it at the Gilmore Museum this morning.  One gentleman seemed to be well versed in them……and listed a lot of engineering issues that made them unreliable.

I believe the engine was produced by Weidley Motors Company.

A quick set of photos. The text is from Golden Wheels by Richard Wager

Nicked this off EBay

George KJun 5, 2022

Nicked this off EBay

Appears to be the same Weidely V-12 engine that powered the 1917-18 Kissel Double Six.  The sole survivor is in the Forney Transportation Museum in Denver, Colorado.  

Not the same as the one in the Pathfinder is it?

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The 1917 -1918 Kissel “Double-Six” was powered by this Weidley V-12 engine.
Few were sold and fewer still were considered good cars.

From contemporary Kissel writings, this Weidley 12 engine had a tendency to “starve” the outermost cylinders of oil, leading to problems. Kissel dealerships actually sought to fix this Weidley problem by offering a method for piping oil to those outer cylinders. That seemed to cure the problem, but why have any problem with a brand new engine.

As few such cars were sold, Kissel used up the big V-12 bodies on their 1919 Kissel 6-45 chassis right after WW1 when they were finishing their WW1 truck body contract. One such car body remains and here is a picture. It’s a beast.

Ron Hausmann P.E.

alsancleJun 5, 2022

Not the same as the one in the Pathfinder is it?

This from Stanley K. Yost The Great Old Cars - Where are they now?

Just some more EBay pilfering.

edinmassJun 6, 2022

I believe that one is in a Heine-Velox if I am not mistaken.

Cool stuff! I always enjoy learning about makes I’ve never heard of. 

Terry, you are correct. It’s a big ugly thing. I had a chance to play with it probably 20 years ago. I would like to make a few more comments but they would get me in trouble so I will hold them back 

By the way, I know somebody who’s looking for a HAL 12 if there is one available. He’s been asking me for about five years.